SirCranksalot Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Interesting stat: We had 4 guests (8 corporate seats) cancel this morning. They decided to go to Niagara Casino instead It took more than a few phone calls to fill 2 & 2 went unused. First time in memory this happened outside of legitimate absences. We have so far only 4 guests confirmed for next game vs Phoenix. I'd go for a nominal fee----say $20/hr! Edited January 20, 2015 by SirCranksaLot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Yep keep doing the same thing over and over and hope for a different result..flawed logic there! I have been saying the same thing for the last 3 seasons and I stand by what I preach...play in your own end more than the other, get outshot, hope your goalie can stand on his head every game...do this and you will lose...check the record! Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Sorry Bill, but I gotta disagree with you on Kessel. the trade that brought him here, made by Burke, has put the Leafs in a hole for the last four years and if he stays, that number will grow. I can't help but feel that he is a bad influence in the dressing room and possibly even worse during games. He can't/won't do what if takes to win, is a complete liability anywhere on the leaf's side of the red line and refuses to get involved in any play that requires a spine. He's their "best player" and I can't help but think he is a bad influence on the younger players. I wouldn't hesitate to trade him for a number one pick and a proven NHL'er. Either way, this team is not going anywhere as it stands. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Again, why is Kessel the whipping boy now? The guy is on the top of charts when it comes to scoring/assists almost every year. What else do you want from him? You think Chicago expects Kane to backcheck? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 good teams build good lines to play around their snipers... Steven Stamkos, Alex Ovechkin. Once again a reiterate, my friends article http://faceoffcircle.ca/2015/01/17/time-trade-steven-stamkos/ Read it, i dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskymatt Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Again, why is Kessel the whipping boy now? The guy is on the top of charts when it comes to scoring/assists almost every year. What else do you want from him? You think Chicago expects Kane to backcheck? lol. Cause he's fat and his mother dresses him funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Cause he's fat and his mother dresses him funny! LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fishburn Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 The leafs are so easy to play against and all the other teams know it. You play the leafs and skate hard both ways you will get two points. They are so soft, don't finish their checks and stand around in their own end when they don't have the puck instead of putting pressure on the puck to get it back. They don't stick up for each other like all good teams do. And they don't play for each other. If I was celine dion I would be dropping the gloves every game. In four or five games they would be saying he is the only guy doing anything out there. But hes a big coward so that's out of the question. Until the Leafs start making the other teams earn their wins nothing will change. They would be way better off with twenty skaters making under 2 mill a year each that come to work everyday with their lunch buckets and put in an honest days work. Noonis should be paying attention to Winnipeg to see how its done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Again, why is Kessel the whipping boy now? The guy is on the top of charts when it comes to scoring/assists almost every year. What else do you want from him? You think Chicago expects Kane to backcheck? lol. lets see...Patrick Kane is a plus player, has won the Calder,Conn Smyth and 2 Stanley cups... Phil is a minus player, is a turnover machine and has won nothing... and yes he `s fat... Edited January 20, 2015 by lookinforwalleye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Kessel does exactly what he's good at, scoring. Thats never going to change. Hes a pure goal scorer which is different then someone like Zeterburgh. Youd be a real Munson to trade Kessel. And I dont believe all the "he's poisonous in the dressing room" crap either. Thats all just media spin. So what he doesn't like to talk to media, doesn't make him a bad teammate. Even when Wilson said hes uncoachable Thats just nonsense. Even in juniors there is players that are the exception to the rule. Every team has at least one, sometimes many. Happens in every level of hockey. anyhow. I still say dump gardiner, lupul and Bozak if at all possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Bunny Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Kessel does exactly what he's good at, scoring. Thats never going to change. Hes a pure goal scorer which is different then someone like Zeterburgh. Youd be a real Munson to trade Kessel. And I dont believe all the "he's poisonous in the dressing room" crap either. Thats all just media spin. So what he doesn't like to talk to media, doesn't make him a bad teammate. Even when Wilson said hes uncoachable Thats just nonsense. Even in juniors there is players that are the exception to the rule. Every team has at least one, sometimes many. Happens in every level of hockey. anyhow. I still say dump gardiner, lupul and Bozak if at all possible LUPUL????? Edited January 20, 2015 by Steel Bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 lets see...Patrick Kane is a plus player, has won the Calder,Conn Smyth and 2 Stanley cups... Phil is a minus player, is a turnover machine and has won nothing... and yes he `s fat... You like ignoring yearly scoring stats? Look them up if you don't believe me. One of the top scorers in the league almost every year. That's the kinda guy you let do whatever he wants, especially when he's putting up the points he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 He's scored one lousy goal in how many games now? He's a minus what!???!!! He's the whipping boy along with a few others because they are the faces of the franchise and the highest paid players. There are performance expectations in every job you can have, hockey is no different. Simply put, he has not performed like his salary dictates he should. But truth be told, I thought it was time to un-load him when he told a COACH who was doing his job, trying to help the team get better, "uhm no, we won't be doing that." So why oh why would anyone on the team listen to the coach, when Phil just shrugs them off? There are so many problems with this team, it's frightening. As a side note, part of my frustration is derived from 47 years of futility. My more recent frustration comes from attending a game in November. Four of us attended as a celebration for my birthday. Those four seats cost just over a grand! Add in dinner, parking and a couple of beers and we are well into the $1,300 range for a night to watch this garbage! So what are all the Leaf fans going to say when MLSE raises their ticket prices next year! LMAO HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 LUPUL????? Yes. I like the guys style of play but hes never healthy enough to make an impact on a full season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Lupul is injury prone, we've seen this over and over and over. Get rid of him while he's still worth something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Lupul is injury prone, we've seen this over and over and over. Get rid of him while he's still worth something. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigson Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) You like ignoring yearly scoring stats? Look them up if you don't believe me. One of the top scorers in the league almost every year. That's the kinda guy you let do whatever he wants, especially when he's putting up the points he does. I think you are way off here Bill. You see, thats the difference between winning and losing. Patty K back checks and is not a liability.Kessel is poison just like Ovi.(might b diff this yr as i havent seen any washington games) Some players will never fully understand what it takes to win consistently. Floating 80ft to the bench for a line change leaving your 4th liners out to dry is not gonna win you many games. And yes that becomes contagious n now Kadri does it too. A loser will always be a loser if he doesnt give a full effort every shift of every game. My question is, how do guys like Polak who is playing with half a face not snap when he sees guys like kessel, kadri, etc taking shifts off? If I were Polak Id be Knocking Philly boy out in practice. Or i donno, healthy scratch for 2 or 3 games might get the message through. Edited January 20, 2015 by Craigson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Bunny Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) bah Edited January 20, 2015 by Steel Bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 My question is, how do guys like Polak who is playing with half a face not snap when he sees guys like kessel, kadri, etc taking shifts off? If I were Polak Id be Knocking Philly boy out in practice. Or i donno, healthy scratch for 2 or 3 games might get the message through. I dunno how guys like Polak don't just lose their minds out there to be honest. No one has any emotion, it's just getting worse and worse, lol. We need some passion on this team, bring some muscle back, punch a few people in the mouth, do something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I dunno how guys like Polak don't just lose their minds out there to be honest. No one has any emotion, it's just getting worse and worse, lol. We need some passion on this team, bring some muscle back, punch a few people in the mouth, do something! Agreed. Did anyone notice how good and tough we were on the puck in corners on the offense when winning? Now it looks like nobody gives a crap. Half our goals came from good puck battles in the corners. Clarkson is showing some grit and Polak as well. I'd almost throw a game and just say get out there and hit everything that moves. I wanna see 4 fights at least tonight lol. Also, if the d has the puck on the blue line get in front of the darned net. If we even have one guy near the net he stays well out of the shooting lane. You play friggen hockey don't be afraid to get hit with the puck for f sakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 You like ignoring yearly scoring stats? Look them up if you don't believe me. One of the top scorers in the league almost every year. That's the kinda guy you let do whatever he wants, especially when he's putting up the points he does. Well Bill what can I say your right of course....the top line is a collective minus 43...well done top line.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Well Bill what can I say your right of course....the top line is a collective minus 43...well done top line.... I could see if everyone was performing and Kessel wasn't but that's not the case. They all have been sucking as of late. I just don't know why guys single him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Top goalie,Two good D,two good centres.I haven't waivered.Dismantle the poison that is once here again.Not sure who is available ,but time to sell the farm again.This is a disgrace..Even when they get the shot count down,they can't score.The goalies IMO,have finally taken there toll.It could not continue this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 We`ve already been over that he`s fat remember.... Perhaps Phil will show some of that emotion that you guys are looking for in the next game...perhaps he will block a shot... perhaps he will throw a check... or perhaps he will challenge Karllson... :worthy: :worthy: ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) We`ve already been over that he`s fat remember.... Perhaps Phil will show some of that emotion that you guys are looking for in the next game...perhaps he will block a shot... perhaps he will throw a check... or perhaps he will challenge Karllson... :worthy: :worthy: ... He must feel proud of who he went after the other night.I;m thinking fighting lesser/non fighters guys he may be actually good at? Edited January 20, 2015 by davey buoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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