fishindevil Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 http://www.oodmag.com/news/asian-carp-reproduced-great-lakes-watershed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted October 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 http://www.oodmag.com/news/asian-carp-reproduced-great-lakes-watershed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasinTails Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 say it isnt so, we needa stop this before it gets outta hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 yeah, I read that today Shawn, not good news I watched an hour long TV show, the nature of things about the invasion, very adaptable and prolific species, it's going to be bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasinTails Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 release the Asian carp eating muskie-pike-bass hybrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 convince the trout fisherman that roe from this fish would work to catch bows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 in the US, they are feeding needy people carp burgers and carp sticks, they said it was decent table fare (nature of things show) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallie Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 If the day comes where you can no longer catch kings downrigging in lake ontario im going on a killpage... Headsup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted October 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Ya for sure and it's not even the ones they are really worried about its the silver and big head carp that will decimate everything !!!! The clock is ticking for sure and it's going to happen no doubt about it.... A 7 billion dollar fishing industry will crash .... Imagine they will spread fast too, just like the gobies did but these carp do incredible damage and will displace everything !!!!! There is sections of rivers in some states where there are only Asian carp for 20 miles of river and not any other fish at all !!!!!! They powers that be don't seem to be taking this as serious as they should be ..... It's not crying wolf it's the real thing and it's gonna be too late very soon .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locnar Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Gallie, funny that you'd mention kings... because last I checked... they're not quite native either now are they. The day I can't catch bass, pike, walleye, muskie or anything native... then I'll go on a rampage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasinTails Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Gallie, funny that you'd mention kings... because last I checked... they're not quite native either now are they. The day I can't catch bass, pike, walleye, muskie or anything native... then I'll go on a rampage. their not native but they dont negatively affect anything, if anything they benefit anything in a river in fall and help the trout out in the spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locnar Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 While I don't have anything against browns, rainbows or the salmons... they just aren't the first fish I'd go on a rampage for... simply due to them being introduced. Common carp on the other hand... dirty introduced/invasive buggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmeh Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) convince the trout fisherman that roe from this fish would work to catch bows.... First off that's great . But in all honesty I think while obviously not good if they get in, I doubt it'll be the abolute disaster people are predicting. Zebra mussles and gobies and cormorants were supposed to destroy the great lakes. And with all these invasives our fisheries are still strong. Sure there have been impacts, but our native species have adapted. Part of the reason I suspect they won't overtake the lakes is lack of food. Their primary food is phtyoplankton and while certain areas are bad and would become hotspots (western Erie), as a whole plankton populations in the lakes are low, and have been dropping. You can thank the mussels and gobies for that - they're concentrating production in the benthos where it wouldn't be available to filterfeeding carp. Maybe the mussles and gobies are excatly what'll keep them down? Also what do you think the odds are they found the first and only ones in a population. They've likely already been around for years, most invasives have been before they're recognized. Edited October 30, 2013 by timmeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Is anyone really surprised? The whole situation has been mismanaged from the start.... Now it is just genies and bottles and no one with the will (or political capital in the land of disfunction) to make the tough call to put genies back whatever it costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Terrible news, I'm start gonna carrying a crossbow with me when fishing the great lakes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 The Sandusky river connects to Sandusky bay which connects to Lake Erie on the western end of Cedar Point amusement park. There are already vast quantities of other species of carp in Sandusky bay, and since it and the river are spawning areas for walleye, smallmouth, pike, and other more desirable species it's not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 They will decimate the Kawarthas and all other warm water weedy lakes. They will take over and push out the other species Can't boat with any speed. They are dangerous when they jump. Will be selling by cottage on Pigeon once they come in, before property values plummet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 it's the bighead carp that are the jumpers, it's the grass carp that have been found reproducing in Lake Erie, the bigheads are coming though not that the Kawarthas are anywhere close to pristine anymore (with common carp and pike etc in there), it maybe worthwhile closing off the Trent Severn Waterway's access to G Bay and Lake O, at least to delay the invasions? fishing in southern and central Ontario will likely be a lot different in the next 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 People are going to start taking matters into their own hands if the government(s) don't take this seriously. Can't be that hard to get a certain chemical that can be dumped and will kill anything swimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 it's the bighead carp that are the jumpers, it's the grass carp that have been found reproducing in Lake Erie, the bigheads are coming though not that the Kawarthas are anywhere close to pristine anymore (with common carp and pike etc in there), it maybe worthwhile closing off the Trent Severn Waterway's access to G Bay and Lake O, at least to delay the invasions? fishing in southern and central Ontario will likely be a lot different in the next 10 years it's the silvers that are the jumpers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallie Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Gallie, funny that you'd mention kings... because last I checked... they're not quite native either now are they. The day I can't catch bass, pike, walleye, muskie or anything native... then I'll go on a rampage.Spoken like someone who has never had a 30 lber screaming drag in 300 ft of water, rainbows cohos and browns are too small atlantics are near non existent what else would i rig for down there. Trust me if i couldnt fish pike in ontario killpage isnt the word i would use... It would be something of unimaginable scale. I understand kings were introduced but it was to control the alewives and became and excellent fishery unto itself. These fish bring pain and emptyness and no foreseeable benefits for anyone anywhere.Lastly i enjoy fishing common carp in my backyard canal off simcoe when nothing else is open. Because, why not thats why, fishin is fishin I hope you see where im coming from my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 catch a 20lbs brown in less than 20' of water on spring tackle - flat lining - and tell me its "too small". more fun than any 30lbs king i've caught..... kings just peel like hell, you wait for them to finish and reel them in, then if the water isn't too warm, you'll get one last ditch effort when they get to the boat....then they float. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 30lb king dipsy shot > 20lb brown flatlining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallie Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 We had a fish this year take 1000 ft of 65 lb braid without stopping or slowing or turning and no amount of drag or thumbs would slow it down. Ever had a brown do that? My point wasnt to make the other fish seem lesser but to make kings seem like the legitimate top three fighting fish in ontario that they are. Which they are hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 1000ft? Tighten your drag man, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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