Fishing Ban: Grenadier Pond, High Park

[Dave Bailey]

I was at Toronto Island yesterday and I met a fellow fisherman, and he informed me that the ban has been lifted and there is going to be a tournament there on July 6th. The person name was Dave Clark (sorry if i spelt he last name wrong). This was the website he gave me, he said there is information there

 

http://torontourbanfishing.com,

 

Actually, that link takes you right back to this thread, try this one: http://torontourbanfishing.com/

 

I fully agree about the problem with garbage and people who don't give a toss for the rules. Perhaps the park personnel could be empowered as officers, with the ability to lay charges. I would love to see that done in a lot more places, Frenchman's Bay comes to mind.

[jim]

You've got to be kidding me! As a kid, this was one of the few places, that inner city kids , could go fishing! Shame on you, High Park. You should be very ashamed!!

[casting]

Used to fish there once a while in teen years

[ch312]

Did anyone even bother reading the articles? In the very first paragraph it says:

 

Since our October 2012 meeting, members of our Grenadier

Pond Protection working group have met with Councillor

Doucette; dialogued with the Park Supervisor; collected

signatures on a petition calling for a provisional ban until a

proper assessment is made to determine if, where, and

under what conditions fishing should be permitted.

To me this suggests that there is enough illegal activity, garbage, and disregard for the fish/wildlife that those who see this day in and day out know that something needs to be done.

There is a link within the second link posted which provides a summary of incidents, conclusions, and recommendations.

http://www.highparknature.org/wiki/uploads/VolunteerOpportunities/summary_fishing_Grenadier_Pond.pdf

Suggested changes:

• Regular and intense monitoring by a dedicated conservation officers and efficient

enforcement are a MUST under the existing circumstances

• Changing a focus of promotional strategies regarding urban fishing from existing

message to build more balanced and environmentally conscious fundamentals for fishing

activities, to promote safer fishing and generally focus more on appreciating wildlife and

natural environment. In a longer view, with a growing population in focus, this is a prudent

way to go.

• Exclude Grenadier Pond from fishing days activities or any similar activities promoting

fishing to large groups

• Have a seasonal recreation staff assigned to do on-site education of the fishers where

fishing is permitted

• Both the education and enforcement staff should be prepared to deal with people who

speak little English (e.g. have materials in other languages, have staff who can speak the

most common other languages, etc.)

• Make mandatory for all fishers to wear their licenses visibly displayed (either hanging it

around their neck or pinned to the clothes), this could help to deter people currently fishing

illegally and make any monitoring or enforcement easier and more efficient

• Mandatory clean-up of all discarded equipment and items

• Consider naturalizing the remaining east side shoreline that would help to reduce a

usage of this very area by a number of waterfowl, including Canada Goose, presently

gathering on this grassy strip lining the shore. This enhancing of the shoreline would also

reduce congestion of fishers occurring lately along this grassy, obstacle free, area.

This is NOT an outright ban as they're looking for ways to keep it open while protecting fish and wildlife. That said, I'm totally against P3TA and disagree with those who think this is a P3TA or animal lover move.

We as fishermen are supposed to be conservationists, yet the majority replying to this thread are against changes to conserve fish and wildlife??? How can you not agree with their suggested changes as they're doing nothing more than trying to maintain this pond that so many of you have fished?

Edited December 15, 2013 by ch312

[icedude]

Appreciate your update here ch312--food for thought--thanks for the linkage

 

Cheers

 

Paul

 

'Take A Kid Fishing'

[icedude]

 

Did anyone even bother reading the articles? In the very first paragraph it says:

 

Since our October 2012 meeting, members of our Grenadier

Pond Protection working group have met with Councillor

Doucette; dialogued with the Park Supervisor; collected

signatures on a petition calling for a provisional ban until a

proper assessment is made to determine if, where, and

under what conditions fishing should be permitted.

To me this suggests that there is enough illegal activity, garbage, and disregard for the fish/wildlife that those who see this day in and day out know that something needs to be done.

There is a link within the second link posted which provides a summary of incidents, conclusions, and recommendations.

http://www.highparknature.org/wiki/uploads/VolunteerOpportunities/summary_fishing_Grenadier_Pond.pdf

Suggested changes:

• Regular and intense monitoring by a dedicated conservation officers and efficient

enforcement are a MUST under the existing circumstances

• Changing a focus of promotional strategies regarding urban fishing from existing

message to build more balanced and environmentally conscious fundamentals for fishing

activities, to promote safer fishing and generally focus more on appreciating wildlife and

natural environment. In a longer view, with a growing population in focus, this is a prudent

way to go.

• Exclude Grenadier Pond from fishing days activities or any similar activities promoting

fishing to large groups

• Have a seasonal recreation staff assigned to do on-site education of the fishers where

fishing is permitted

• Both the education and enforcement staff should be prepared to deal with people who

speak little English (e.g. have materials in other languages, have staff who can speak the

most common other languages, etc.)

• Make mandatory for all fishers to wear their licenses visibly displayed (either hanging it

around their neck or pinned to the clothes), this could help to deter people currently fishing

illegally and make any monitoring or enforcement easier and more efficient

• Mandatory clean-up of all discarded equipment and items

• Consider naturalizing the remaining east side shoreline that would help to reduce a

usage of this very area by a number of waterfowl, including Canada Goose, presently

gathering on this grassy strip lining the shore. This enhancing of the shoreline would also

reduce congestion of fishers occurring lately along this grassy, obstacle free, area.

This is NOT an outright ban as they're looking for ways to keep it open while protecting fish and wildlife. That said, I'm totally against P3TA and disagree with those who think this is a P3TA or animal lover move.

We as fishermen are supposed to be conservationists, yet the majority replying to this thread are against changes to conserve fish and wildlife??? How can you not agree with their suggested changes as they're doing nothing more than trying to maintain this pond that so many of you have fished?

 

No Updates OFC Family to my knowledge

 

CH312--Noted

 

Thanks

 

Paul

[dsn]

Its all a bunch of garbage. Scientist interests my butt. Next thing you know it will be closed to the public sanctuary like the one at River Dale Park. Closed off completely and no ones allowed in.

[MuskieMagnet]

Really sad news. These bans do not really consider what is good for all stakeholders and the fish themselves.

[icedude]

You've got to be kidding me! As a kid, this was one of the few places, that inner city kids , could go fishing! Shame on you, High Park. You should be very ashamed!!

Sheesh--lot of negative nancy's down at the pond today KJ

 

casual observation from a professional standpoint--Pe3A types--what the hell aka Where to Fish..Urban Fishin is alive and well i believe

 

ontariofamilyfishing.com

 

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Edited July 2, 2015 by icedude