rmarentette Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I have severe sleep apnea and realized how dangerous this condition can be during the power outage during the blackout of 2003. Not an experience I care to repeat. I've always wanted to go on a fly-in but this has held me back. Suffering through one night is one thing but the long term risk of medical complications is another. My brother-in law has been trying to talk me into giving it a shot, however until you experience the problem you don't don't realize the danger. Has anyone on this board found a a good fly-in camp that is able to accommodate someone with sleep apnea or has anyone found a good alternative solution? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 So basically all you need is a place with power? I'm sure there are a lot of outfitters that will be able to accommodate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Eyes Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 If I was you and seriously considering it and the weight on the plane allowed for it, I would bring my own brand new generator with me. Of the outfitters that do have a generator(s) at camp, I bet they are old and unserviced. I would not be relying on them to keep you breathing at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT8 smoker craft Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 CPAP's don't use that much power I would say a good deep cycle and a 12v inverter would run 1 for a long time it would be better than relying on the out fitter and you could test run time at home before you go my apnea is positional so if I stay off my back it's not to bad but I wake up with head aches all the time without the CPAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 advise the outfitter of your condition well in advance, any outiftter I've been with would gladly make sure they have what you need at camp for a safe accommodation would a deep cycle last a week's worth of sleeping time? I don't have experience with those solar chargers but maybe something that could work to keep your batter charged up for the night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT8 smoker craft Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 The CPAP is a small pump and a humidifier some of the new ones would last longer than a week I would think but I can't say for sure he would have to give it a try at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desship Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 A friend of mine portages in Algonquin and brings a small battery which he bought from a medical supplier. I can buy an adapter and use a deep cycle battery for mine but my apnea is not that bad . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmarentette Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) CPAP's don't use that much power I would say a good deep cycle and a 12v inverter would run 1 for a long time it would be better than relying on the out fitter and you could test run time at home before you go my apnea is positional so if I stay off my back it's not to bad but I wake up with head aches all the time without the CPAP. That's a great idea and I could also use that as home back up. I asked the people that I got my machine from but they weren't sure if a battery back would last a full week. I wouldn't want to take the chance relying on an old generator as was mentioned in one post. Thanks for the suggestion. The reason I asked the question is that I'm sure there outfitters out there that have dealt with this over the years, but I trust the folks on this site who might have already found reliable ones. Edited June 13, 2012 by Rolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigreddog Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think the manufacturer-offered solutions typically work for a night or two, depending on your usage. Using your humidifier or requiring a higher pressure will obviously drain the battery more quickly. They're also quite expensive (though you get lucky and have it at least part of it covered by insurance). Probably the least painful way is to ask an outfitter if they can accommodate your needs when you're shopping around. They may also have had previous clients with similar conditions and may be able to offer you advice. There are also some online CPAP communities (CPAPTalk.com) that may also be able to point you in the right direction. When I go camping, I always pick a powered campsite. Yes, it looks a little odd setting up your tent among the hulking RV trailer park, but I'd probably keep the entire campground awake at night without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Contact the outfitter. I'm pretty sure that a couple of deep cycles with an invertor should keep it going for the week as long as you don't use the humidifier. Check to see what the power usage is, there should be something on the bottom of the machine or in the owner's manual. I don't go anywhere without mine any more. I've forgotten it a couple of times and those were not fun weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmarentette Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think the manufacturer-offered solutions typically work for a night or two, depending on your usage. Using your humidifier or requiring a higher pressure will obviously drain the battery more quickly. They're also quite expensive (though you get lucky and have it at least part of it covered by insurance). Probably the least painful way is to ask an outfitter if they can accommodate your needs when you're shopping around. They may also have had previous clients with similar conditions and may be able to offer you advice. There are also some online CPAP communities (CPAPTalk.com) that may also be able to point you in the right direction. When I go camping, I always pick a powered campsite. Yes, it looks a little odd setting up your tent among the hulking RV trailer park, but I'd probably keep the entire campground awake at night without it. Wow the people on this board are always so helpful! I never thought or knew about (CPAPTalk.com). You guys are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmarentette Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Contact the outfitter. I'm pretty sure that a couple of deep cycles with an invertor should keep it going for the week as long as you don't use the humidifier. Check to see what the power usage is, there should be something on the bottom of the machine or in the owner's manual. I don't go anywhere without mine any more. I've forgotten it a couple of times and those were not fun weekends. I'm going to check out the deep cycle batteries and inverter suggestion, that would also help in case we have a power outage at home. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Wow the people on this board are always so helpful! I never thought or knew about (CPAPTalk.com). You guys are great! Most of the people here are very helpful. Now go do your fly-in, worry-free. Give us a report and then plan a bunch more, Rolly! Have a great time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 A CPAP unit will only last 2 - 3 nights on a typical Group 27 deep cycle battery....trust me....I know. A larger battery would last longer but with the downside of added weight. I would try to rent a small Honda generator (inverter series) and a small battery pack supplied by the CPAP company. Any way you look at it, it will be somewhat expensive. The problem with using the outfitter's generator is that, in all likelihood, it'll produce "dirty" power, not suitable for your CPAP unit. Most lower cost generators are not designed to power sensitive electronic equipment and may, in fact, damage them. I also have sleep apnea, and I wouldn't take the gamble of going on this trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 If you have supplemental heath insurance you may be covered for the cost of a battery . I get 7 days on a big deep cycle with no humidification. That's on a 12v system at a high pressure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb4me Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I would also try a solar trickle charger. Im sure it would work well if it was in direct sunlight all day.They have a nice long wire so the panel can be in the sun and the battery somwhere shaded.Like others have said, try it at home ..If it lasts 7 nights your good to go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieperchhunter Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I would also try a solar trickle charger. Would it do the job if you had 7 days of no sun shine? Having severe apnea myself I would never take the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Eyes Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Rolly: see PM and you will be on your way with a generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT8 smoker craft Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Would it do the job if you had 7 days of no sun shine? Having severe apnea myself I would never take the chance. Trickle chargers only need daylight not direct sun shine and I would think a 2'x2' charger would replenish what a (new small CPAP they are the size of a alarm clock now even my 2 year old model is massive in comparison )CPAP would use from a nights use by the time you were ready for bed the following night . I do think fish4eyes Honda genny is a good idea also they would use very little gas and are small enough to carry like a tackle box . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctered Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 A friend of mine goes on a fly-in every year to Percy lake north of Nakina. A friend of his has sleep apnea and they take along a honda generator. His machine will run 2 nights without recharging. They run the generator every second night for 3-4 hours and use less than 2 gallons of gas for a week. We are planning to go to Lady Evelyn on a boat in trip in July and this friend that I have not met is going with us. He does not let sleep apnea stop him from going on these kinds of trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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