mercman Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) I'm sorry but it really bothers me when guys call cops morons and the like. Perhaps I'm just lucky but I have never in my 65 years had a bad incident with a police officer, in fact just the opposite! I have always been treated fairly and in fact many many times I have had them go out of their way to help me. Sure I have had a few tickets over the years but never any that I didn't deserve and even then they were often reduced. Officer Cliff Tate here in Lindsay deserves a commendation for the way he helped me when I found my brother-in-law had passed away. I'll never forget him for what he did for me. Sure there are some bad apples just like there are some bad fisher (persons) but don't tar them all with the same brush. The reason I never tried to become a police officer is because I'd have probably made Dirty Harry look like a little girl by comparison. You guys can think what you want but I have nothing but respect for them! If you can't stand behind them; try standing in front of them! AMEN BROTHER. Don;t be too hard on em. They"ll be damn glad to have a cop on thier side someday when they are in a situation where they really need one. I for one, always give the local cops a discount in my store, even though they have never asked for one.They desreve it in my opinon. Edited January 6, 2011 by mercman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) I'm sorry but it really bothers me when guys call cops morons and the like. Perhaps I'm just lucky but I have never in my 65 years had a bad incident with a police officer, in fact just the opposite! I have always been treated fairly and in fact many many times I have had them go out of their way to help me. Sure I have had a few tickets over the years but never any that I didn't deserve and even then they were often reduced. Officer Cliff Tate here in Lindsay deserves a commendation for the way he helped me when I found my brother-in-law had passed away. I'll never forget him for what he did for me. Sure there are some bad apples just like there are some bad fisher (persons) but don't tar them all with the same brush. The reason I never tried to become a police officer is because I'd have probably made Dirty Harry look like a little girl by comparison. You guys can think what you want but I have nothing but respect for them! If you can't stand behind them; try standing in front of them! give me a gun and the same rights as they have and I think you would find many people would gladly stand in front of them and do without them my right to bare arms to defend me and my property has be pretty well taken away...putting a dependence on using the cops for everything ......... oh and I server time in the armed forces so one could say I did stand in front of them,or with them as the bumper sticker says Edited January 6, 2011 by Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) give me a gun and the same rights as they have and I think you would find many people would gladly stand in front of them and do without them my right to bare arms to defend me and my property has be pretty well taken away...putting a dependence on using the cops for everything ......... oh and I server time in the armed forces so one could say I did stand in front of them,or with them as the bumper sticker says We've obviously had some very different experiences Terry. I too served time in the armed forces, 1RCR Delta Company Airborne. I carried a gun, was trained on rocket launchers, SMGs and several other things, I also had rights that perhaps the average person didn't have. Does that mean I am a bad person? Does that mean that all soldiers are bad people? Well, maybe in the eyes of some. Edited January 7, 2011 by Big Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 i smell "LOCKED THREAD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 We've obviously had some very different experiences Terry. I too served time in the armed forces, 1RCR Delta Company Airborne. I carried a gun, was trained on rocket launchers, SMGs and several other things, I also had rights that perhaps the average person didn't have. Does that mean I am a bad person? Does that mean that all soldiers are bad people? Well, maby in the eyes of some. of course not and 99% of cops are not bad but that 1 % sure screws things up and I have had 2 bad experiences with cops and 100% it has tainted my view of them and has made me fear for my life when approached by cops life experiences is how people/children learn . you touch something hot and you soon learn to not touch hot things you get beat up in a dark alley you learn to fear dark alleys well same with cops I have learnt not to trust them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 i dont think it will get locked on the account of Terry or Big Cliff...both are respected people of this forum..and can carry on a educated debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I see this as a friendly discussion ..nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I really doubt that he was a real police officer. Undercover, no ID, gun already pulled. It was some crooks way of trying to score some drugs or valuables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 The kid is asking a question. He does not seem to have any vitriol for the cop. He is just uncomfortable with what happened like anyone would be. What happened was no where near what police protocol would be in that situation. Maybe the guy was not a cop. Maybe he was. Go to the police station and find out. Just because some of you have never had a bad experience with a cop does not mean that it has not happened. I think I smelled an implication that maybe this young guy was asking for it as well. If I were him I would resent that a little. If he was all punk like I am sure it would have come across in his explanation. He would not have received an apology either. I agree with the statement that said we should not brand all cops with the same brush. I would like to add that the citizenry should be shown the same respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spincast Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I agree with TB4me - was this guy really what he represented himself to be? It is clear that this situation was handled less well than it could have been, IF it was indeed an officer of the law, But just for the purposes of discussion.... In every vocation there are those who represent the positon they do with the utmost integrity, those who represent it well, those who could represent it better, and those who frankly shouldn't be there at all. Power and authority tend to exaggerate the failings and ignore the successes of those it touches. There are always 3 sides to every story it is difficult to judge the actions of others if you have not walked in their shoes or faced their demands HOWEVER, if he happened to be acting on a tip that armed drug dealers would be in the area making a transaction that day... and if it was you assigned to do the stake out...... and you wanted to make sure you got home to your wife and kids tonight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 For the record I really think this was not a cop. Sounds like someone trying to score some dope on the fly. The police would probably be interested to hear it so they can sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 possibly divine intervention for bassmaster4...now he KNOWS he wants to work for Internal Affairs when he grows up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 For the record I really think this was not a cop. Sounds like someone trying to score some dope on the fly. The police would probably be interested to hear it so they can sort it out. Not a cop?..... That's why the bad guy looking for drugs apologized... If some half cocked rookie cop stuck a loaded weapon in my 17 year olds face there'd be hell to pay. I'd love to see the cops face if it was done to him in return. The coward would probably start crying. Sorry if I seem a tad off. It's been done to me on more than one occasion and there is nothing that can be done about it. Just gotta suck it up and move on and hopefully it never happens again. No I don't hate all cops. ...just the really bad ones....lol and there's enough of them around so it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 True enough. Robbers do not apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 True enough. Robbers do not apologize. sure they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 the ones i catch apologize all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb4me Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 the ones i catch apologize all the time Now thats funny..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 the ones i catch apologize all the time yeah ...that they got caught... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I see this as a friendly discussion ..nothing more As do I and I respect Terry and his right to his opinion as I am sure he does mine! The beauty of friendship is that you can discuss and sometimes agree to disagree on something but still enjoy each others company at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketclam Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I'm not going to get too far into the debate of good cops versus bad cops. But I will say this - the "cop's" tactics don't seem to fit the standard at all, and I tend to side with the OFC'rs who have replied thinking that this may not even have been a law enforcement officer. My advice to the chap who started this thread is to report it to the police and make sure that they know you're expecting some follow up. If it was part of a legitimate operation, they should be able to tell you that much. If it was not part of a legitimate operation, they should also be able to tell you that (and would probably be very appreciative of any information you can give them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitespinnerbait Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I would go with the Police Officer's side of the Story.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Ya maybe a little heavy handed but I look at it this way with the number of guns the bad guys have these days I don`t blame the Police for being very careful,if the guy would have walked up to a suspect car in a nonchalant manner and gets himself shot then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 This story makes no sense at all. A cop would never do this. I don't think anyone looking for drugs would either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 As do I and I respect Terry and his right to his opinion as I am sure he does mine! The beauty of friendship is that you can discuss and sometimes agree to disagree on something but still enjoy each others company at the end of the day. Glad to hear that, cause i really enjoy reading your posts, guys. I was afraid someone else would express his opinion a little too recklessly and like other interesting threads, get it wacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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