Fang Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Traded off to St Louis for Lee Stempniak I don't know who made the deal in St Louis but this one is definitely in favor for the leafs Edited November 24, 2008 by Fang
misfish Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 Good trade. Carlo way to reckless as a small D guy.(better forward then he was a D guy,never stayed home) .
fishing n autograph Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 Kinda off topic, but when do the leafs have their morning skates/practices at the Lions Arena on lakeshore??
canadianboy Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 good trade carlo and steen needed a fresh start and lee is a great player
Rizzo Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 good. Never heard of the guy we're getting in return but I never saw the potential in either Steen or carlo that others seemed to see
misfish Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 good trade carlo and steen needed a fresh start and lee is a great player Fresh start yes,but Carlo needs to know his roll,DEFENCE. Fletcher is the man to get the leafs in the playoffs.Best move so far was getting rid of the old guys(although they were great leaders in thier own ways)The man is smart and knows his hockey. Sure hope they keep him as an advisor for the club when he is replaced.The young studs are doing just fine. Tusky needs abit of polishing,but will get there. He,s still a young pup.
GBW Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 Kinda off topic, but when do the leafs have their morning skates/practices at the Lions Arena on lakeshore?? with your job can you not just make a call to find out?
kentooley Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 I was hoping Carlo would be with us for awhile , But thank god he's gone!!!! Let someone else deal with his injuries!!! He is no Wendal Clark! Not an impact player! Hopefully he'll do well with another team. As far as Steen go's get me my weeping towel. Talent but no balls !! Guess what ? Wade Belak became available and I'd grab him back in a minute. That's the guy we could use, and get rid of those tough guys we got now. (Holweg can fight but ???) When you leave it to our 18 yr old future captain , there is something seriously wrong. Bring back BELACK!!!!!!!!
steverowbotham Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 I would bring Belak back in a heart beat. He's a motivating player, believe it or not. Steen/Colaiacovo for Stempniak ... good trade
misfish Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 BELACK!!!!!!!! A Totaly 100% get him back.
jediangler Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Two water bottles for a bag of pucks. Leafs passed on Belak when he was on waivers. The Florida players were very upset that mangement put Belak in that position. Now White will go back to the blueline. Edited November 24, 2008 by jediangler
fishing n autograph Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 meh....we're talking about passing around a bunch of pilons....belak is no different.
misfish Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 meh....we're talking about passing around a bunch of pilons....belak is no different. Do you watch hockey? Man I have edit this post 6 times. The mans a leader and is/will be a greater player.
johnnyb Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 how did Belak even enter the conversation? the only nice thing I'll say about him is that IF he can learn some self-control, he has potential. Doesn't look like he's going to reach it though....although Wellwood looks like he may have changed his ways...so there's hope...
walleyejigger Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 this a great trade for the leafs, actually kind of a robbery, stempniak has much more potential than steen and carlo combined, no healthy team in their right mind would have done that deal, but alas st.louis is hurting, and were at the mercy of other teams, i'm surprised they didn't get better offers out there for him, GO HABS GO
Rizzo Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 "Belak" and "potential" in the same sentence don't belong. He's as good as he'll ever be. The guy is 32 years old for pete's sake! There's nothing wrong with the type of player he is, as long as people appreciate him for what he is, not what he might become. The man is well past his prime so forget potential and take what you can get now.
JohnF Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 this a great trade for the leafs, actually kind of a robbery, stempniak has much more potential than steen and carlo combined, no healthy team in their right mind would have done that deal, Stempniak's a free agent next year, isn't he? Will the trade still look so good if the Leafs can't sign him? Hopefully there's more to the trade that we haven't heard about yet. JF
mistyriver1 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 It's a good trade if they can sign him next year cause he's only got one more year left on his contract. ($3.5M) He's a right handed shot though something the leafs need at forward. I never side the up side to Carlo or Steen. Belak is part of the past....keep it that way So when is Burkey gonna be signed ?
Grimace Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Inconsequential trade. Steen was going nowhere here. Carlo was a good player and will get better if he can keep himself on the ice. Lee Stempiak has the potential to be a 20 goal scorer and a 50 point man. BUT is a free agent at the end of the year. Prolly move on. Inconsequential trade. But not necessarily a bad one. However I wonder about the motive behind it. Weird timing with Burke apparently coming in imminently. Wonder if the talks have cooled off with Burke?
kentooley Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Domi taught Belak how to fight and come to his team Mates Defence and if you ever played the game ,You should Know how important that IS.
jediangler Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Stepniak is a career MINUS player. Just what the Leafs need . Wilson will have him sitting in the press box along with Blake before x-mas.
fishing n autograph Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 the problem with many leaf fans is that they fall in love with "useable" players....and turn them into more than they are.....it seems that when toronto gets rid of one pilon, they trade or sign one or two more to take their place.....if they keep doing this, then toronto won't see a cup in 30 more years.....
Mattones Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 I'm going to the leafs game tomorrow:)
kentooley Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Stepniak is a career MINUS player. Just what the Leafs need . Wilson will have him sitting in the press box along with Blake before x-mas. If you have nothing positive to say about the leafs , I think you should get anew girlfriend, cuz you obviously are lacking in some area!!! My boy's are tryring unlike yours that lay limplesssss! :lol: :lol: Cheers
Grimace Posted November 25, 2008 Report Posted November 25, 2008 Stepniak is a career MINUS player. Just what the Leafs need . Wilson will have him sitting in the press box along with Blake before x-mas. He is a winger. On St Louis. Andy McDonald is a -12. Boyes is a -14. I would take either of those 2. Kovalchuk is a -3 on Atlanta. Bad teams have minus players. Brendan Morrow is -4 on Dallas.... He hits and plays well in his own end. I am not trying in the least to say that Stempniak takes care of his own end. But I dont think that +/- is a good measuring stick for a winger on a bad team. Wendall Clark was a career minus as well :-) Not to ever even compare the 2 lol. Doesn't matter anyway. You can't get much for Steen or Carlo. I just think it was a weird trade with the timing. Whats the motive?
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