Thanks for the quick responses everyone! I will research the places you all recommended, and let you know how I make out. Rich, I to am in the states, Rochester n.y. I don't get to many fishing trips in, as I am self employed (pizzeria with lots of hours) and 5 kids that keep us chasing them everywhere, especially during hockey season!! My folks have a cottage on one of the Finger lakes(Honeoye), so if anyone ever needs info. on that lake I will be glad to help. I also take the kids out in Lake Ontario out of the Genesee River for the salmon run in early fall, so if anyone is ever planning a trip there, I can try to update you how the fishing is, as a buddy of mine runs charters out of the river. Thanks again for all the help everyone! Bill