I checked out the new St croix avid and the new crucials.
Both 6 ft 8 medium action
The avid was $229 and had a much softer tip, micro guides and an overall nicer feel
I'm not sure how I feel about the micro guides as I will be periodically using it in the winter
The tip did seem a little bit too soft but a very nice rod
The new crucial retails for $199. Not as soft of a tip but plenty of backbone and a nice balance. The new models remind me of the older models from a few years ago. In my opinion a much nicer Rod than last years models ( black blank with split grip foam )
Both rods have split grip cork, which I like very much. Can't stand the foam grip and will not even consider
I will have the rest of the winter to look around. I will try to find a store that has the Dobyns rods to play with
Any other recommendations or input would be appreciated