Capt.
To your erie Deerie question.
I have tried them when i was about 12 ever since then i focus on finding green weeds especially fishing Pigeon Lake Ont. I will let you in on a secret, try rip jigging a black buck tail 8 pound test braid with 10lb fluro lead try to find thick weeds that spread out to thinner weeds and start there 6 feet to 12 ft good luck i Miss Pigeon Lake everyday i should blessed I'm on erie , but Im a kawartha kid at heart !!!