Huronmtn

LOL please, my responses were pretty measured compared to the kind of reception the original post would receive on an actual fly tying/fishing forum. Classy with the name calling too, not unexpected though.

Thanks for the warning!! I won't hold hard feelings on my part with you. I can see where you are coming from. I'll add this to my list of adult learning moments. In my case, the entries on that list don't get any less frequent as I have aged.

Nice fly. Now I am really probably going to further irritate some fly fisherman by sharing that I fish my articulated fly on a spinning rod. I never use it on a fly rod for the same reason cuzza points out. I am much better able to control my cast with a spinning rod.

My go-to is the zuddler in one colour or another, always have olive, black and white with me, they catch almost anything. Might have to try yellow by the sounds of things too

 

The trouble with these complex, time consuming articulated flies is that when casting them against far banks and under trees, you lose them. Well, I do anyway

Waste of time. Learned a lesson about sharing anything in this community. Thanks for the wonderful welcome. Hope you are all proud of yourselves.

It is probably hard to tie a fly nowadays that doesn't look like something someone else has tied before. I am not out looking for any credit for inventing something. I just wanted to share what I developed and found to work. I didn't know there was a stern ethic with some -- an unwritten copyright law -- regarding fishing flies. The fact that there was a design similar to the fly I shared prior to me sharing it is apparent. I didn't mean to take away from the work of others. It is a good design in my experience that has worked very well for me. I encourage anyone that has not used it to give it a try.

Never heard of that fly before you pointed it out. I admit they are similar designs. If you don't believe that I guess you don't.

Thanks for sharing Fishfinder. I agree that the flies look very similar. Looks like it works well for you.

I'll share my favourite trophy trout fly. I've been using the same pattern for a few years now. Big browns, brookies and bows all like to kill it for trespassing. Sometimes they like yellow, sometimes white, sometimes brown, sometimes black.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its called the sex dungeon, originally tied by a fella from the midwest. Goes by the name Kelly Galloup.

 

 

So, an analogy to show you how stupid I think this is.

Let's assume you are a home builder. One that actually has some design skills. You design a custom split level home and offer the design to your clients along with many stock models. You decide to call it what you want, some name with good marketing fluff attributes would be the typical thing to do.

Your rational applied to home building is that this builder can not offer his design to the market with out first publicly paying tribute to the first guy or gal that designed a split level home. Who would even know that? Who would even care?

Makes no sense. Doesn't matter. Clients like the house, clients buy and dwell in the house. They don't a year or more later sit back and remember or care what the builder's design was called. They just are happy with their choice and that the home fits their needs.

i don't understand why this is such an issue for you. Why are you more interested in what something is called instead of sharing what works? You guys must know it all already and so this is really boring for you and this is how you find entertainment.

What I have to admit is that I have naively stepped into the world of fly tying snobbery.

I'll let you all have the last reply. I have nothing else to say. I am moving on.

So, you must be quite a chap. Calling someone that you don't know a liar because you have some other fly tying knowledge in your head is appalling to me. I guess you have appointed yourself the fly tying taxonomy God on this forum. Good for you. I hope that role brings you and others a lot of value in life.

Enough said on this. It would be nice if some one would reply with a fly they would like to share.

Ok. Let me be much more diplomatic than I feel right now. I started this topic with the hopes of sharing useful information between people interested in trophy Speck fishing. I did not expect my first reply, or any replies, to be a complaint about what I wanted to share. It is sad when vanity and arrogance ruins things for others trying to have a substantive exchange. GTH

Right, you just happened to come up with a pattern (on your own) that almost exactly matches probably the most well known and most popular modern streamer fly today?

 

https://www.slideinn.com/product/galloups-sex-dungeon/

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cNMONDokgA

Wallicio,

Unfortunately I am not a fly tying affectionado as you are presuming. I developed this fly on my own based on experience I had starting out fishing with unarticulated flies of my own tie and using jointed rapalas. I don't subscribe to the precedent that one must study other fly tyiers work before one sits down to tie a fly. I do what makes sense based on my experience.

A nice tie but that is clearly a modified Galloup's Sex Dungeon...at least give credit to the actual innovator behind the pattern before claiming it as your own.

Do you have a "go to" productive Speck fly that has proven itself over the years/decades? Care to share?

Mine is a fly I invented/refined after a mix of experiences that led me to create this pattern. I call it the "ScuCraLee".

It is a somewhat complex fly to tie but worth the effort if you are focused on big Specks. It can be fished to simulate either a sculpin, crayfish, or leech. See my video if you want to give it a try.

https://youtu.be/1YHJMSVtFX8

Check out Duckworth, Weldcraft, and Alumiweld. Built to last a lifetime. No rivets in any of these boats. Much thicker aluminum then what you get on the popular heavily marketed brands. A good used one can save you 10 grand on the price and it will sell last a lifetime.

Nice early season fish! Yes, when the water is cold I often find the bite doesn't start until in the afternoon. But on a calm sunny day it's hard not to be out in the morning.

Over the years I have found that I get more large specs on 5-inch articulated streamers than anything else I put in the water.

Headed to the lake in a few weeks for the annual spring speck trip. Anyone else heading there this year for specks?

Last year we still had ice on the lake the first four days but managed some treacherous trolling between the ice pack and shore each day. Next four days I unfortunately spent sick. But despite all that we caught and released a number of keepers and added another of our group to the Two-Four Club (24" or more).

This should be a much better trip this year.

22' Duckworth Pacific Navigator

Leadcore works great. It gives the lure dynamics you just don't get with other lines. For big lake trolling I run 30 meters of leadcore at the end of my monofilament followed by 8 meters of fluorocarbon leader. Use the Willis knot when tying in leadcore. A very small strong bearing swivel at the end of the leader is key. Suggest Sampo swivels. For casting or trolling on a river I scale this back to 3-6 meters leadcore and 2 meters leader. I highly recommend the jointed BX series Rapalas on the end of these rigs. They are expensive but they out fish everything else in my tackled box. If I was starting over I'd never buy 60% of my other tackled and concentrate the investment on BXs.

Robert at Onaman is always tough to get a hold of but if you can make arrangements with him it is great place to fish the lake from. Best time to get a hold of him is before 9am or after 9pm. He is out in his work shop much of the time and hard to reach.

Raspberries for lake trout -- they actually work pretty well when you jig with them. You need good firm raspberries for them to stay on the hook.

Anyone know the ice out situation on Lake Nipigon? Headed there end of the month assuming I don't need the ice breaker.

Nice report DanC. Thanks for sharing. And, MAY IS ALMOST here.