Roy I never said solo paddler was steering me wrong. I know first hand what a quality fishery the Cabonga is. Problem for me is its a 12 hr drive. I live in NY near Rochester. What I was referring to is the Quebec license and parc laverendrye permits are so expensive for non residents, its a joke. If they really wanted the tourism, it would be priced in line with the rest. Thanks for the suggestions, well go somewhere perhaps Big Gull or a future suggestion. BP