Tayzak15

Well il never be on the great lakes with it, Im up in northern ontario so most lakes im on around around 1000-2000 hectares with the biggest one I go on being roughly 5000 hectares, but even on that lake my uncle has a 17 footer with a 90 so I would rarely have to take mine out on it. I'm on rivers a lot too as well.

So you think it would be alright then? Im estimating between everything including motor,gear,myself and my buddy we would be running around 1100 lbs

Which is fine by me as long as it planes out, I mentioned earlier that I am out on my own quite a bit sometimes 2 ppl and rarely with 3, we usually never have much gear so it would just be gas, 1 battery, rods plus our tackle. The boat I am looking at now the alumacraft fisherman 145 is 14 ft 10 inches long and has a 73 inch beam.

Chances are I would probably upgrade the following summer (the engine) but I am wondering if it would be tolerable for a summer pretty much? Just on a bit of a budget because I am still a student and have to have some saved up aside for when I return to school in the fall.

Well if I went with the lund fury or alumacraft fisherman I would more than likely get the 14 foot model considering it has roughly the same beam width as the one I had ordered just these ones have the raised deck,livewell asll that stuff. As for spincast I might ask them that but would they deliver an alumacraft boat somewhere, where there is no alumacraft dealership? (theres none in timmins) The motor I bought was slightly used 2011 20hp 4 stroke merc with very low hours.

Yeah we usually have a light load, never more than 2 or 3 people MAX on rare occasions, its too bad because the 20 would have been perfect on the initial boat I ordered, but since it won't be here in time its led me to shopping around again considering the price difference between the fury's and fishermans compared to mine would end up equaling about the same after having to spend money on gas,hotel,food to come pick it up rather than just pick it up on my way home.

Yeah I bought the 20 hp earlier this winter because I had put an order on a 16 ft alumacraft utility boat, which only weighed about 300lbs, but they called today and said it won't be in on time so I'm considering just calling back tommorow and seeing if they have the next model up which would be the alumacraft fisherman or lund fury. So I can just grab it as I move back up to Timmins rather than moving back this week then coming back down here in a couple weeks to pick the boat up. Most lakes/rivers I fish are relatively small however there's a couple big ones I fish the largest being about 5000 hectares. I may upgrade later on, if I went this route, but I did just buy the motor this winter and haven't even gotten the chance to use it yet. keep the responses coming people! I have to make a decision within the next few days since I am moving back on the 18th and I was notified about this late shipment last minute.

Looking online for the tiller models I know the alumacrafts are rated for a 25hp, and the 16ft lund fury was rated for 40 and I believe the 14 foot is rated for 25 or 30. Again, I'm not looking for huge speed just anything around 20mph or around that with 2 people.

Well this past winter I had decided to purchase a new engine and boat. Well I'm from Timmins and I purchased through a dealer in Orillia because they gave me the best price. It was an Alumacraft v16. Well sure enough today I get a call telling me the boat won't be in for a couple of weeks (I ordered 2 1/2 months ago) at the time they said they would have it by April 18th (the day im moving back to Timmins). I have already bought a 20hp 4 stroke mercury that I was planning to use for it, but now I'm considering looking at a Lund Fury or Alumacraft fisherman because I don't feel like travelling back down here to pick up the new boat once it does come in. So my question here is what kind of performance do you guys think I would get with a 20hp powering either one of these boats? both of them weigh in the 500-600lb range and usually have 2 people in the boat. I'm not looking to be a speed demon with it as long as I can get about 20mph or higher I would be happy. Just wondering if anyone has any similar setups or experience thanks in advance for replies!

Its a good conversation though, seems everybody all have different opinions on the subject. I've been studying the topic for the past couple of years so I just try to base my information off what I've found myself and not what I've been told by the governments and media.

Can't agree more, that's when it is time for people to start fighting back or the two big government will continue to bully us. I think its getting close to a time for change people should start looking into Libertarianism seems like that's the way people want a government to be run, and its the way it should be run nowadays.

No kidding its because of the drugs...Don't you think people have the right to protect themselves though? You can't tell me in the Denver theater shooting last summer that the absolute worst case scenario was 1 man with a gun. You don't think if only a couple of the people in the theater were carrying guns and have the ability to shoot at the suspect it wouldn't have improved the victims odds even a little bit?

Actually if you look deeper into it than just on the surface look at where the gun crimes are happening. Places like Chicago and New York where its illegal or next to impossible to acquire guns is where the high murder rates are. When you look at places like Texas that have a more lenient gun control laws their gun crime rates are very very low compared to states where guns are virtually banned. Lets go 1 step further with this too. In Switzerland they have one of if not the highest gun to house percentage in the world. They also have the lowest or near lowest gun crime rate in the world as well. Now look at Mexico where guns are banned. People are getting slaughtered there every day. People need to realize these gun laws are just taking the weapons out of law abiding citizens and preventing them from defending themselves. Do you really think a criminal will go through the legal process to acquire their gun? Its a pretty damn safe bet that they wouldn't.

Fantastic idea blackbears and our blackflies and mosquitoes

Registering guns is a useless program just made to steal our money. There is absolutely no purpose for it, gun regulations are starting to get out of control here in Canada and the U.S studies show that more guns create less crime.

I wasn't targeting you, and I know people get scammed into investments every day and a lot of people go broke everyday. Usually professional athletes are big targets for these scams. So lets just go back to the point of this thread ignore what each of our tax rates actually are and focus on the point of this thread which is about the tax in general. Personally I think its robbery. without these teams travelling to play in the arenas there would be hardly any revenue to generate. People don't pay to see their home team practice, they pay to see them compete against rival teams. The idea of taxing these teams which is virtually generating revenue for the arena is beyond absurd, but doesn't surprise me one bit coming from the government(aka thieves).

Actually they go broke for a lot of reasons, some get scammed into risky investments, have corrupt agents ect. Sure there are the ones that blow it all away buying houses, cars ect, but it is unfair to throw them all into that 1 category. I know a lot of people hat eon the amount of money a professional athletes makes, but you know what? they had to work their ass off to make it there and they deserve every penny they make.

DOn't forget to read the entire article here people. Sure the players can afford the tax (which is still unfair considering when they travel they generate revenue for opposing teams stadiums) but this also effects trainers, equipment managers, everyone involved with the team also making not too much of a salary. Just another example to show the bloodsucking thieves our government really is.

Still early in the season, if you're going to have injuries now is the time to have them. Seasons pretty much meaningless until June anyways.

Honestly sounds like it would seem like more of a headache/money pit then time you would get to spend enjoying it.

Don't forget to add CC Sabbathia pitched 7 scoreless innings and hes an ACE

I am undefeated in my fishing tournament career I have never entered a tournament LOL

Yeah they're spinners like the ones in the link below http://strikezonetackle.com/Go-Getters2010.png

Exactly it, I would welcome those hunters back into Canada with open arms. I don't know if its the case with this situation, but I do read a lot when people do go hunting for these types of animals all over the world the meat is often donated to the local tribes,natives in the area.

Global Warming is a natural cause anyways, so there's not much we can do for Polar Bears. Might as well just hunt them rather than letting them drown, unless they are showing patterns of beginning to adapt at all and migrating at all.