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we just replaced both last summer. My house is approx 2400 sq feet plus finished bsmt...so we needed decent size unit (sorry I forget the exact specifications). We looked at Goodman and Carrier. We decided to go with the Carrier because it wasn't too much more AND the Carrier dealer promised to assist us getting all the rebates we were entitled to. The Goodman guy basically said figure out the rebates yourself. We paid 9 k taxes in for a "mid range" carrier AC and furnace package. We later got 2500 back in government rebates. And we actually got them! Like I said the Carrier dealer helped us in that process. If I remember correctly a mid level goodman would have been 7500 taxes in figure out own rebate and the Carrier was 9000 but after the rebates only 6500! After doing some research it basically looked like Goodman would let anyone with a van represent them (fly by night operation?), whereas Carrier seemed more "long term"

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Tomkat that is also my policy...had never bought an extended warranty on anything...until this one. And I was adamant I didn't want it. Didn't even want to hear about. The salesperson convinced me to listen. "Don't use the warranty, you get all your money back". That was a type of "insurance" I was willing to get. If I had a huge repair bill I am covered, if I don't bother using the warranty then I get my 2500.00 back...all I miss out on is the interest that 2500 would have earned me in 5 years...in other words nothing to lose! We even had one $500 repair that we didn't get fixed thru warranty because we didn't want to jeopardize our refund. When it came time to get my 2500 back this is NOT how it all worked out. Not only will I refuse these sales pitches in the future...I will literally laugh when offered it.

I have caught one on a weightless rubber worm and 1 on a jitterbug....both times I cast it right on the fishes head practically....was more of a reaction strike I think

...as a fisherman I agree I don't want him giving out info on my favorite lake...but as a guy trying to make a living I would expect him to try and make some more sales to make a living. A bait shop owner not willing to help is like a guide hoping you catch nothing with him...doesn't make sense for someone trying to make a living from the sport

I find it odd that bait shop owners would not want to help. If I succeed I come back and I buy more bait. I go out and have a crappy day I don't come back.

with the electronics it sure keeps you interested!

ya my buddy did that...we made zero attempt to retrieve it...mind you we had no camera to help

I assume he was not hunting bear? Scary stuff

I also read it completely. There was no reason for them not to give me my money back, that is why they eventually gave me 2000, after a MASSIVE fight. So now I am out $500. Am I gonna take them to court over 500? No...too much trouble. That my friend is an absolute scam. Try to steal my 2500, but if you know I am gonna put up a fight, just give 2000 back to shut me up and make it so I won't go to court. The clause they referred to in my "denial" letter didn't even exist! Over and over I asked them to send me proof of this clause in my contract...nobody ever did. In my case it was a clause that I had to provide service records. This clause was NOWHERE to be found, yet it was what they tried to use to not give me my money.

Go get em! If anything good comes of this there have been 10,000 views to this post...hopefully that prevents others from being scammed...or it stops car salespeople with a conscience from selling this scammer policy

I even had one of those "consumer protection" tv groups tee'd up to go interview Dodge about why they were not helping me....then I got a good chunk of the $ back. I had been having chest pains from the stress/anxiety....just decided to let it go for the sake of my health. Also had a case set up with their governing body...let that go too. I guess that squeeky wheel expression worked in my case. But it never should have come to that.

I did emails, faxes, phonecalls...you name it. I was absolutely relentless....because I was very skeptical when I bought it...couldn't believe I fell for their scam. When the lady at Dodge sold it to me I actually told her "If this doesn't work out...I will be your worst nightmare". I am a man of my word. They tricked me, got my money, I was not going away without being an immense pain in the butt. After all, I did warn them I would be incredibly annoying if it didn't work out as they promised. And I was. All phone calls I made I took notes and recorded the day/time/who I spoke with. Right now I would say your bigger beef is with the dealership...they should never have sold it to to you.

Ya I called Chris too when I was going through this. Fortunately I never had to go to court...I ended up getting 2000 out of the 2500 I was owed so left it at that...same as you...was losing A LOT of sleep. At the time I really needed that refund and had "budgeted" it. Was a disastrous experience to say the least

interesting...never saw that slideshow before. Although it never says "the refund will be given" it certainly doesn't say there is no point to apply for your refund. If that were the case (going over voids the warranty) it should say it plain and clear right there. You go over in the 4th year...don't even bother applying

Sorry to hear that Kverde. We were never told that if we went over the 100 k that we wouldn't get our money back. Only thing we were told was "If you don't use the warranty you get all your money back...including taxes". When I was fighting for my claim I did notice some wording that made me realize that if I had gone over the 100 k before the 5 years, they could decline the refund. Never noticed this in the beginning, and it certainly never was mentionned. Only found that info once they declined me and I read everything over 20 times trying to figure out what basis they had to screw me. You may be in for a tough battle because there is a tricky little phrase there about exceeding 100 k before 60 months is up (at least my documentation had that "out" clause for them). What dealership did you buy from?

thats what it was...bizarre...for some reason I was thinking I knew his stuff from SCTV. Couldn't go through an episode without him calling someone a Putz or something being strapped to him with those dang "bindings"....like Saskatchewan has seals

Sure hope they are making him a casket with "genuine Saskatchewan sealskin bindings"

oh wow...dragging the motor upside down through the rocks...you knew that wasn't gonna look so good at the end

Friday's warm weather and rain may change that...unless its significantly colder up that way. We expect 10 degrees and rain tomorrow in Guelph

Whenever I go fishing and catch nothing my family thinks I am wasting my time...I should have them read your story. Sums up really well how catching fish is often just a bonus

Do hunter's learn a bear's life story before they decide to shoot it? I am not a hunter so don't know how this all works. If I were a hunter that came across a bear I would likely say "Hey...a bear" Then I would shoot it. Probably would not take the time to determine whether the bear had a tough life or an easy life.

Guess I never noticed the 25w40 because it was easy to find the 10w30...went straight for that. This time when the first two shops only had the 25w40 it got me wondering. Luckily third shop was the ticket

Sad day...winterized the boat today. Had a tough time finding 10w30 4 stroke marine oil BUT I saw tons of 25W40 4 stroke marine oil. I had never noticed this type of oil before. Is this what is being recommended now for 4 stroke engine oil? I did find eventually some 10w30 and bought it but was surprised how much of the other I was seeing (maybe there was so much because nobody buys it!) My engine is a 90 hp Yamaha 4 stroke from 2013 if that makes any difference.

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