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#1 DanD

 
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:44 AM

Since the dam on the Thames here London has been out of commission more and more of the natural fish have been coming back.

Here a link to a urban shore fisher that caught and released a 39 inch muskie. 

Leave the river alone and let it bring back all the fish that use its entire length.

 

http://www.lfpress.c...more-dam-debate

 

Yeah maybe the dam had its purpose, after the flooding that happened in the 50; but since then I hope we've learned not to build dwellings on flood plains?

 

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:19 PM

Really nice chunky fish for only being 39" Dan.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:59 PM

hella chunky!



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 02:21 PM

Let it flow!

 

Dams cause way more problems in the long run than they end up fixing. The only reason we need flood control is because we're building to close to the river and not respecting the high-water flows that are needed at certain points of the year. Putting in a dam may 'fix' flooding problems, but you now have another piece of infrastructure that needs to be maintained, and people think they can safely build tight to the water because it's 'controlled'. The dam allows silt to accumulate, destroying fish habitat and eventually causing safety issues if not maintained. On large rivers damming the river prevents the silt from travelling to the outlet of the river, where it is needed to form barrier islands (ask New Orleans how that works after Katrina). 

 

The Dutch have started an interesting project called 'Room for the River'. They don't view the river as something to be conquered or subdued, but rather have begun designating and creating flood plains to deal with the highest expected flows of the river. This does not prevent floods, but gives them somewhere to go. Plus the flood plains become green space the rest of the year for all to enjoy. 

 

In the US there have been some interesting dam removal projects (the Elwha river is a notable one) and the return to natural landscape and the return of native wildlife has been much faster than was expected. 



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:03 PM

Holy fish fins Batman!! That is one fat 39"er.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:04 PM

Thanks for sharing that Dan! I fished that section, well from the forks to Delaware by foot and bike when I was kid, but the dam was always there, in those times. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I sure am! 

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:10 PM

That is a chunky fish for 39"s. Beautiful to boot.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:03 PM

thanks for sharing this that's cool

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:04 PM

I'm a paddler through and through but they need to let time have its way with this dam and let species return to the area. That's a higher priority for me in this case.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:13 PM


Looks like a tiger muskie, even more impressive.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:53 PM

Looks like a tiger muskie, even more impressive.

no thats what st.clair musky look like,seeing  the thames empties into st.clair thats where it came from



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:57 PM

lately I have been fishing the thames in and around london like i use to back 25 years ago. The fishing has been very good,lots of smallmouth,pike and even a few walleyes in the last few weeks. Guess i better be prepared cause thats one of the spots i have been fishing.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:22 PM

Could be a Tiger, the best way to tell is the fins. Regardless she's a fatty. I don't remember which has rounded pec fins and which has pointed. Wait let me go look at the one I have in the kitchen mounted, hold on a second I'll go look. Many Musky experts has seen my mount and say it is defiantly a Tiger, the fins are pointed not rounded. It is difficult to tell by the vertical bands ans they vary. Joe Martin from Hamilton did it in 82' when catch and release had not yet been invented. The thing looks as good as it did coming out of his shop 35 years ago. He was the best. I don't know if he is still with us. He was one of the best in North America and had the awards to prove it. Even then I remember paying over $400.00 for the mount. One of my most treasured possessions I have. It may have lasted this long because of all the moisture and oil splash from me pretending to be a chef.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:46 PM

Could be a Tiger, the best way to tell is the fins. Regardless she's a fatty. I don't remember which has rounded pec fins and which has pointed. Wait let me go look at the one I have in the kitchen mounted, hold on a second I'll go look. Many Musky experts has seen my mount and say it is defiantly a Tiger, the fins are pointed not rounded. It is difficult to tell by the vertical bands ans they vary. Joe Martin from Hamilton did it in 82' when catch and release had not yet been invented. The thing looks as good as it did coming out of his shop 35 years ago. He was the best. I don't know if he is still with us. He was one of the best in North America and had the awards to prove it. Even then I remember paying over $400.00 for the mount. One of my most treasured possessions I have. It may have lasted this long because of all the moisture and oil splash from me pretending to be a chef.

 

Pure strain muskies have pointed fins.  Pike & tiger muskies have rounded fins.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:29 PM

That is 100% a tiger, rounded fin tips, as John said is a dead giveaway. There's been a steady increase in catches of both tigers and pure strains in London in the last few years including fish near and over the 50" mark.

I agree the increased water quality with the absence of Springbank dam is a big factor in these fish showing up.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:04 AM

Interesting, this popped up on a blog I follow this morning.

 

http://digital.vpr.n...l-dams#stream/0



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:06 AM

ill take a 39 tiger any day any lake, never mind in the thames river...holy crap



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:14 PM

I bet the carp are getting pretty scared!!!! LOL

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:59 PM

I don't think that's a tiger muskie.  Looks like a St. Clair with some colour from being in a river.



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:14 PM

i think we need fisherpete to chime in lol he can make the distinction!







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